Formal apology from #tf2 and tf2.co.za

This short article shall be an apology from myself on behalf of the tf2.co.za Admin Team as well as the local IRC channel, #tf2@shadowfire.org, for the absolutely unacceptable tomfoolery that ensued yesterday with regards to one of our own pickup admins actually hacking on our local servers. This article will also serve to clear up any misconceptions or confusion as to what actually happened.

The ex-admin in question shall not be named. Even though most people are already well aware of who it was, enough shame and attention has already been brought upon him.

The unfortunate happening took place on the local ammomod server, where the cheater in question was apparently “testing out aimbot” against some of the regular locals who make use of the server. However, the so-called “testing” soon turned to blatant cheating and misuse of the server, and a soon-to-be torrent of rage as the cheater in question purposefully revealed his identity related to his real account. Myself and others, through reconnaissance, confirmed that it was indeed true and it was him who was cheating. In the process, it was also discovered that two other admins who were supposed team-mates to the cheater in question were well aware of his identity and the fact that he was “testing out” hacks before anyone else bothered to do anything about it. It was also confirmed that they attempted to cover for him in the event that I questioned their knowledge of any of the shenanigans that took place. Again, while most people are aware of who they are, they’ve received more attention than they ever deserved and shall remain nameless in this article.

Needless to say, the proverbial ****storm took place in the local IRC channel, and the admins in question were immediately reprimanded and banned; the cheater has been permanently banned. While the bans on the other two admins have been lifted, their admin rights have been revoked: they can take this as a severe warning. Misuse of admin rights as well as covering for a cheater shall not be tolerated.

What commenced thereafter was an antagonistic parade of attention-seeking by the cheater in question as he promptly joined every populated local public server and made it blatantly obvious that he was using aimbot, and proceeded to ruin the gaming experiences of many local players, most of whom didn’t even have anything to do with #tf2 or the competitive scene, but were merely bystanders to this outrageous ridiculing by our ex-admin.

While he was promptly and permanently banned from all the IS servers, unfortunately there was no SGS admin present and thus one of the SGS servers was fully exploited by the cheater, and was definitely an embarrassment for all parties involved.

Needless to say, I apologise for this disgusting behaviour, as well as the mishandling of the whole situation which could have been cleanly resolved should we have had the proper administrative structure set in place.

While it was a huge shame for the community, and especially for the remaining admin team for both #tf2 and tf2.co.za, the situation has been resolved and the necessary punishments have been put in place.

We’ll work hard to make sure nothing like this happens again, as well as to move on and prepare for greater things that are just around the corner for us.

Thank you for your time and understanding.

-Joint

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Serpent
Serpent
10 years ago

Hey jan, u should learn from kyptonite on how to cheat and get away with it…. don’t use an aimbot and make it so fucking obvious…. u dumb poes. lol what a joke

Lola
10 years ago

Serpent for president

Headshot101
10 years ago

oh lol.

Peng
10 years ago

I like, Serpent, I like.

wikus
wikus
10 years ago

The Jim’s of TF2 are no more ๐Ÿ˜€

Headshot101
10 years ago

tf2 is no more.

Headshot101
10 years ago

well comp atleast

Jan
Jan
10 years ago

LOLED

Jan
Jan
10 years ago

Serpent maybe i did to prove a point and didnt care? did you think about that nice to see that is admins are also hackers like kyptonite nice job is

Beetle
10 years ago

:O
I’m actually shocked at this….

Goldfox
10 years ago

Joint, the two admins who “covered” for him were his friends and team mates, and it’s to be expected that friends will cover for friends. At the stage where we covered for him all he was doing was messing around with an aimbot with just his friends on an isolated server, just for lulz It’s only when you and another admin, who shall remain nameless, got involved and made it personal by banning his main account did it escalate into the situation we have at the moment. There was nobody being affected by it and he was just messing around on an isolated server, does that warrant a ban of all his accounts and revoking the ops of his friends and banning them from #tf2? In my opinion this has been blown way out of proportion, and that is the only reason why what is happening now is happening, and you only have yourself to blame. If you hadn’t insisted on causing shit with us when we were keeping to ourselves, with your arrogant, holier-than-thou attitude, none of this would have happened Joint. Needless to say Headshot and I did not encourage or suggest using or getting an aimbot, for whatever purpose, nor did we encourage or suggest any of what has followed, so please don’t accuse and label other people without knowing anything about it. Finally, can I suggest that everybody stop feeding the fire and drop this whole conflict before it gets any worse.

Jan
Jan
10 years ago

Well said goldfox

Peng
10 years ago

Goldfox, isolated server or not, between friends or not.
AIMBOT (HACKS) = BAN.

What Joint did was right and this other nameless admin would surely support him. Your argument is invalid bro.

Another thing, if you were his friends you would’ve talked him out of using the damn aimbot and we wouldn’t have had this situation on our hands no?

Headshot101
10 years ago

“clown crew” I lold

Goldfox
10 years ago

What people seem incapable of understanding, Peng, is that at the stage when we covered for him, and at the stage where all of his accounts got banned for using aimbot in an isolated situation where it affected nobody, there was no intention, at least to mine and headshot’s knowledge, that it would’ve been used any further than that.

With the knowledge the admins had at the time, a full ban on multiple accounts and ban on IRC was way over the top, and in my opinion is what sparked this escalated situation. Considering everything, Joint’s actions seem more about attention seeking than he accuses our actions of being. This was never about getting attention, and what you won’t accept is that I had nothing to do with it.

You would love it if I was the one behind this wouldn’t you? You clearly have something against me. And sure, I’ve complained about you, and however frustrating it was it was never more than that, and I’m certainly not the only one who had complaints, but I never did, nor ever considered taking it further than idle complaints and frustrations.

You accuse me of influencing others to accuse you of rate-hacking, but people like khan had been complaining long before I said anything, and of all the people, khan? You want to take him using my name when accusing you as irrefutable proof of my motives? What bullshit. Again I say, I had nothing to do with this, and yet the whole community has accused me and labeled me because of you, and I was not even there to offer a single word in my own defense.

I’ve also put a lot of time and effort into this game Joint, over 3 years I’ve played and I feel I’ve contributed a lot to the community, why would I throw it all away by doing this? What would I have to gain?

Your arrogant attitude and lack of understanding is the main cause of what is happening.

Also: “Also, paragraphs, mother****er, do you know how to use them?”
I mean really? What relevance does me using paragraphs have? That statement epitomizes how incredibly arrogant you are, and further shows how you’re turning this into a personal attack.

Just drop this Joint, you’re the one creating more attention for this situation than it deserves, and kindly stop accusing and labeling people behind their backs without a proper understanding of what is actually happening.

Whisp
Whisp
10 years ago

Headshot maybe instead of feeling like you’re being accused of doing something you haven’t, or ‘labeled’ as you put it last night, you should be kicking yourself for your own stupidity, it’s no ones fault but your own that what has happened to you, has.

You, being a WAGE admin yourself (Although I don’t know how you got through the screening process in the first place), Should have known the consequences of hacking. Regardless of him being your ‘friend’ over the /internet/ are you in a better position now after ‘sticking up for him’, or would you have been better off having come forward, not being shunted by the community and branded a stupid immature child. Oh wait..

Peng
10 years ago

Headshot bro, why the bad bad words? Don’t you think there is a more civilized way of replying to what Whisp had to say? You’re just furthering providing proof that you’re a “stupid immature child” by your reply. Atleast defend yourself against Whisp and say why you’re not a “stupid immature child”. Seriously.
Kthxbai.

Goldfox, you hack you get banned. It’s simple really. I (and probably most of the other admins) don’t care if the said person hacked on another account or his friend’s account, he will still get banned on his friends account and all his other accounts. We ban the player not the account.

_enemy
10 years ago

You guys dumb

Headshot101
10 years ago

Peng, Incase you haven’t been around Ive been over this with whisp countless times and I stopped talking to him a while back because I was sick of it. So say what you want but the fact of the matter is most people here are just trying to assert dominance it’s lulz, enemy is right.

Stratis303
10 years ago

Goldfox, I don’t know why this would be about Joint seeking attention or of him having something personal against you because I seem to remember a conversation we had quite a while back. After we had a few skirmishes in the Deathmatch server… you accused me of rate hacking… or in your words: “Did Joint give you some of his rates” , because apparently I was never that good a scout and I suddenly came back from not playing for a while and could dominate you. Which to mean clearly brings across an arrogant personality as well as a negative attitude towards Joint.

Although, all of this is really beside the point. If you “side” with a hacker, you are in the end no matter what going to be suspected of something even if people won’t admit it and that kind of stigma doesn’t just go away.

Also Peng I agree, our job is to stop and hacking attempts on the servers and testing hacks no matter how small, it is still a hacking attempt and can’t just be brushed away, with not exceptions.

Lola
10 years ago

Headshot, your IRC ban was lifted, if youโ€™re still keen to play pickups and competitive tf2, that is.

WTF

Dont care for all the emo clowns much, he tried out a hack, don’t care where or with whom he likes doing it ๐Ÿ˜›

Why try it out in the 1st place…

wikus
wikus
10 years ago

One night in late October,
When I was far from sober,
Returning with my load with manly pride,
My feet began to stutter,
So I lay down in the gutter,
And a pig came near and lay down by my side;
A lady passing by was heard to say;
“You can tell a man who boozes,
By the company he chooses,”
And the pig got up and slowly walked away.
–Unknown

Headshot101
10 years ago

Lola I didn’t hack lulz, I was just part of the “crew” hah
And “emo clowns’ hah
Shows how much you know :]

Whisp
Whisp
10 years ago

The pig didn’t booze but was still keeping the same company with the drunk man. Learn to English please.

Whisp
Whisp
10 years ago

But you see the pig at least had the sense to walk away.

Kaboos
Kaboos
10 years ago

HAHA MEATSHAHT

Peng
10 years ago

I almost failed English in high school and you want me to deceipher a poem?!
Greaaaaaaat!

Spike
Spike
10 years ago

I don’t believe Heashot and Goldfox_ should be held in anyway “responsible” or have any issues with the community just because they sided with Jan. A lawyer does not go to jail for defending his client.

Yes as admins they should have stopped it but to be personally attacked is just wrong. The whole situation could have been handled much better from everyone’s side. SGS I look at you for allowing him to play for so many Mann Manor map rotations with no ban.

I think what Jan did was disgusting, being on the receiving end of his aimbot on the SGS server, and should be a lesson to all future hackers.

Jan got what he deserved and shouldn’t complain.

Jan
Jan
10 years ago

Spike i did not complain at any point so get yr facts straight before you comment.And to everyone else that made comments the BAN IS IN SO lets lock the subject or do you guys really want to carry on with this issue???

Spike
Spike
10 years ago

I didn’t say you complained just said you shouldn’t. Get your facts straight before you comment.

Deacan
Deacan
9 years ago

To me it just proves how easy it is to cheat… it will never stop.

Razerfox
Admin
9 years ago

Time to close this and move to the next page.

TF2 SA has future no matter what happens… ๐Ÿ™‚ even if we remain a less than 12 teams competitive community cool np’s we will keep having fun that’s what matters.

X
X
Admin
9 years ago

I Love TF2:)