Interview with Peng

Here’s the first in a series of interviews with players about what they would like to say about TF2 SA from their point of view. In this interview we feature “Peng”, from team Fury.

Friendship and Fun make for a successful team in TF2

I have experience both as a “pubber” and also has a slightly more competitive player. As far as I am concerned, the downsides to playing on public servers (or “pubs”) include the following:

  • Spam, spam and more spam.
  • Spam some more.
  • Even more spam.
  • Snipers, Spies and Pyros.

The upside to pubbing is it’s lots of fun, especially when your spam turns into a “crit” (critical shot) and that crit ends up killing 3 people. Other upsides are:

  • You tend to meet great people to play with.
  • Fun maps. I mean come on, who doesn’t like Goldrush?
  • Killing Serpent or Concussion. Or both if you’re extremely lucky.

In contrast to pubbing there’s competitive TF2. This takes the form of “clan matches”, “pickups”, the slightly less formal “mix” and of course the great “6-v-6 competition”. There are however, downsides to competitive TF2:

  • Good players “pomp” you for a long time… A long, long time… and without lubrication too…
  • It takes a while to learn all aspects of competitive gaming.
  • There’s only one medic.
  • Rage. (also known as being screamed at by your fellow team mate(s), usually limited to one or two specific individuals). There is a difference between rage and teasing and not the sexual kind of teasing.

As with pubbing, competitive TF2 also has an upside:

  • You get so much better after playing just a few competitive games. [Editor’s note: Mixes might be the exception, but a mix is a good way to avoid the “pomping issue” described above. Mixes make for a more gentle introduction to competitive TF2]
  • The rage makes you get better also. Tough love? Hmm. Now, I thank Enemy and Wir for raging at me in the past.
  • Competitive TF2 can be really fun if you know what you’re doing.

What makes a clan work

  • Friendship
  • Losing and learning
  • Above all have fun

Most clans that enter the competitive scene are mainly friends that have taken that leap of faith from Pub to competitive, or under constant nagging to come play pickups from other competitive players.

Everyone must do his or her part to make Team Fortress 2 in South Africa more visible. Help people that need it – whatever it takes. Help them get into pick-ups, give them advice, go medic in pubs and heal people so they can experience different classes. But above all, have fun.

However, losing is just part of the game – it makes you get better. Look at CyB as an example. A few months ago, most people didn’t know who or what CyB was. Now they are being recognised as a clan with ambition and determination, comprising players making a name for themselves.

I think is the main reason new clans break up is, in the great words of Razerfox, “you will be wasting your time to build a team if you cannot trust your clan mates like friends.”

If you can’t trust your team-mates to stay in the clan after losing then what the underworld is the bloody point of having a clan? Friendship is, in my opinion the biggest deal in a clan. If you lose but are with friends, who cares about the result?

I’d like to take Fury as an example. When we lose we mainly laugh, most times. Then we point and laugh to people who did crap. It also helps when you admit the mistakes you’ve made. There’s no point in denying it and making more tension then there already is. It is a game after all. Another problem voiced by public players new to competitive TF2 is “competitive players intimidate” them. So to all the “old school” competitive players, try not to be too “intimidating”.

As soon as you have the friendship part sorted out, you will start having fun. Laugh about stupid stuff like getting yourself blown up while trying to kill a scout. Or killing someone when you rocket/sticky jump. That is what it is all about, fun.

New clans tend to look up to successful clans like Eq or eNg, without realising that they also have been through hell and back to where they are now. They are still together after some difficult times by losing badly against teams like Brazen and Swift but they did not give up.

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Admin
10 years ago

Pengaleng, well sed

Beetle
10 years ago

Agreed, particularly about the losing bit, as I say to my clan if we are going through a winning spree: I want us to lose a few games to bring us back down to earth.

Losing isn’t just important for lower skilled clans. In my oppinion, even the top clans should “practise losing”, so that when they really do lose it won’t be such a big deal. The worst thing is when a team gets comfortable at the top and then slack off.

Good interview Peng, enjoyed it 🙂

Heckers
Heckers
10 years ago

What do you do when you go on a losing streak? 🙂

G4RFiElD
10 years ago

Good stuff Pengz! 😛

wikus
wikus
10 years ago

Wall of text crits Heavy for 450.
Heavy dies.

Cereally though, good read.

GO PENG!

vomitshovel
vomitshovel
10 years ago

Well said peng, and until we have enough clans to have divisions, our lower-mid skill clans are gonna have to tough it out.
Low-Mid teams should try organise as many mixes as possible, and soon if they keep at it, will become top teams.
Id love to see some newer teams learn from this

Stratis
10 years ago

Well said dude, classic Peng style ^^ … and CyB got mentioned XD….. one day we will win a game….. one day.

dangereZ
dangereZ
10 years ago

Peng I am your Father…… :0

Headshot101
10 years ago

Nice Peng : )
Crits ftw

Darktrace
Darktrace
10 years ago

IMHO a losing streak is better than a winning one. After a loss you can look back and say: Yes we lost. But…Player A got this awesome kill, Player B took out half the opposition, Player C is doing something much better, our rollout is faster or we did something really well this time. It all adds up and you start seeing the team grow and get better.

Another great thing about playing with your friends is that if u get pissed off with someone or someone starts raging you know they will forget about it and then carry on playing also the clan doesnt fall apart easily if you start playing as a group of friends rather then a team that aims to come first in a comp immediately.

Hopefully the new competitions and such will attract some more pubbers to form clans and we can get a lekker league going.

Peng
10 years ago

Thanks guys for all the feedback. I love you all in a non-gay, non-sexual kind of way.

Space
Space
10 years ago

You hate spam but love Goldrush? *head explodes*

Peng
10 years ago

I didn’t say I hate spam, I just said it was a downside.

Beetle
10 years ago

“What do you do when you go on a losing streak? :)”
I’m gonna be lame and say that every game is a win if you give it your best shot and learn something from it 😀

Any new clans need to realise that even if you do improve, realistically you may not overtake existing teams since they have been around and most likely are improving all the time as well, all you gotta do is wait for a new team to come along and you won’t be the new guys anymore 🙂

To Darktrace: I agree with you 100%. Another thing that is good about losing is that you actually learn from it, I know that is a cliche but it’s true. When teams lose it makes people think: “what did we do wrong?” or “What can we improve?”.
But when they make mistakes but still win they seem to just say: “Well yeah but we won so whatever”.
That is something that I have experienced with some teams and it really gets to me since that is not the point of practise, you need to acknowledge mistakes so that the team can grow into a well oiled machine, you can’t just shrug things off because you got lucky and won or the other team made a few more mistakes.

/rant

Peng
10 years ago

sometimes you get lucky and win, that makes some people think that they have really won through other reasons.

KunG Fu
10 years ago

Well said Peng, I remember when I was in TD. We played Swift and Eq like
once a week and then checked the demo on how we can improve and ask the team how you did and what you could focus on improving 1st. That is the cool thing about our community, no one will tell you after a game, “no u suck stop playing”, coz everyone starts at the bottom and then improve as a team. Small stuff like watch your demo and then mahbe you see, “wow i suicide way too much or i jump away from the medic when i should stay” And then next time focus on not doing that one small thing and you will see how it all falls into place later.

We all started focusing on playing more pickups too increase our individual and see when to do what. Like fall back or push, there is nothing worse than being in the middle and getting jumped on or picked, you should make a decision as a team and go for it, if it does not work you will know what not to do next time.

Say you are on a losing streak, then it is also a very good time to work on your defence, like maybe go heavy + sniper on granary last and see how that works ect. Cover the flanks and call what you see, find out what works best for your team and you will see then other team will not take the point as easy as they did the 1st time you tried to stop them.

Instinct
Instinct
10 years ago

nice one peng a leng . . .

a demo and a writer, all makes a good combination as a fighter.
keep it up peng.

RaCoon
RaCoon
10 years ago

Peng for president…..oh wait….mmmm…maybe not… <3

Peng
10 years ago

I would make an awesooooooooooooome president!

Jan
Jan
10 years ago

Yeah nice one peng!!!Kung Fu you must rember that it is not the easiest thing starting a new clan like TD and playing top clans week in and week out.You should know your self how we lost members.If you a small clan that is in the low-mid range skill level its not always the greatest idea to go and play the big clans or clans that wil rape you!To keep a team motivate and wanting to improve and get playing like a unit is hard when you are losing the whole time(you build a trend of losing the whole time people wil leave the clan).The best way to get a new clan going in my view is play clans in yr skill level and maybe a mix with a couple of Gud Players in it.

But thats just the way i see it.

PENG FOR PRESIDENT

Wraith
Wraith
10 years ago

nice one, i like reading the interviews and tips on this site especially since im only finding my feet in competitive tf2 now

lol and i love pipe spam crit spam rocks!!!

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