The preparations for the promising TF2CSA 6v6 Series on it’s second edition is already on the works with some awesome news. The kick off of this competitions will take place where most of TF2 players (students) might be on holidays as the World Cup will be taking place so we decided that the Sunday 13th of June would be a good time to kick off and be able to play most of the games during the World Cup period to avoid any problems with the unavailability of the players.
We might be looking to play 3 games per week though we still to decide if we should play scheduled Match Days or let teams schedule their 3 games per week. Also this time we will use “Maps of the Week” pre selected by the competition admins after the list of maps to be used are selected with team captains and we going to review some parts of the rule set for this competition like the unlocks allowed and so onย (All this will be discussed with the team captains shortly).
And the great news are the availability of prizes for the Top 3 teams in this competition though the requirement to make this happen will be a minimum of 12 teams registered. This will be a good opportunity to try once again to give to the TF2 players some hope that still worth to play this awesome game in South Africa and keep having fun at the competitive level.
Signups:
Open: Monday 31st of May
Close: Friday 11th of Juneย 11:59pm
Kick Off: Sunday 13th of June
Prizes: Over R5000 worth on Razer Products & DSL Uncapped Accounts (More details when signups go live)
NB: For new teams to enter, they will need prove that are serious by having to play a minimum of five games played against existing teams (screenshots of results required), this is so that teams do not pull out of the competition after been steamrolled on the first match to know what to expect on levels of skill and to find out that if the team has the right balance of players before they rage quit.
In other news the TF2CSA website will have a new design upgrade shortly and the integration of an automated ladder system for players to manage their teams and be able to challenge other teams to participate on a new ranking system based on the results of the challenges.


Prizes: Over R5000 worth on Razer Products & DSL Uncapped Accounts (More details when signups go live)
Prizes for most promising team or something? ๐
Lakka!
Uhmm not sure hey… In the past most promising teams didn’t last but check I’ll see what we can do this time.
So who is sponsoring all this prizes?
Prizes: Over R5000 worth on Razer Products & DSL Uncapped Accounts (More details when signups go live) read boet ๐
Oh awesome, CyB is ganna be there!!
If we want to get 4 new teams, and get them each to play 5 matches, before the 11th (and even that’s assuming all 8 teams from 6v6 v1 all enter v2 as well) then we pretty much need “most promising teams” prizes – the prizes for 1st, 2nd and 3rd aren’t going to encourage new teams to start up as they obviously won’t place in the top 3.
jeffreydav has a point
True. But existing clans will try to help other clans build up coz they see the Prizes.
At the moment we have. Eq . eNg. i. Nc. @. Fury. Cyb. Shift. Di?. Boom. PAS?.
There were a lot of pretty good specs as well during the PAS Challenge, maybe one or two of them will put their hands up and make clans, instead of chirping on a spectate server:)
They have from now 23rd – 11th June, which is like 19 days give or take to decide to become a clan and play 5 matches against teams from V1.
Maybe if the top teams all disbanded? ๐ Then we may get a chance lol.
Well I think there is still possibilities of seeing another teams breaking the current Top5 and new teams does not mean just “new players” there are a good bunch of quality players out there that just need some motivation and dedication to make a well balanced team.
Is a bit selfish to think that the only way for new teams to join a competition is if they win something. What about thinking like “Oh let’s help out the TF2 competitive scene to get 12 teams and maybe hopefully we get better competitions on the future”
This time we could nominate the award without prizes for that team as I think still unfair that the “Most Improved Team” though it might not even be in the top 6th gets an award though the 4th that goes to the semis is a much better team and gets nothing.
If we have a league with enough teams to make divisions according to skill levels we could award Top2 teams from Div2 and get promoted to Div1 and maybe get them some prizes as well but for now we still on the process of rebuilding the believe that TF2 still a game with hope at the competitive level.
New teams “with players that really care about TF2 future” should just be encouraged by taking part on this kind of competitions and be able to play the current best teams as well as learning from them and hopefully one day being able to match the skill of Top teams.
Is the same cycle like on any other sport though here we don’t get paid “the players improve with experience, to get experience you have to play and to improve even more you have play against the best”
So can we think of “improve” “have fun” “help the community” first instead of “hoping to win something”? Just getting prizes for the Top3 is already a good start and hopefully it can just get better.
Operator(@) is available to help any new team get started.
You may contact any team member via IRC in #tf2
Yes, agreed. Now I realise what Razerfox is trying to say. I see a lot of good players in pubs and people that just play the game casually, maybe we can get them to make teams and play some teams so they can join V2?
If we can show other players/games that us, TF2 players, still play this game well on a competitive level, maybe then we can attract players to join?
I like the league idea, it will put teams in divisions that are of the same skill level. But we won’t be able to do this without enough teams, so let’s get started and create them teams!
I will be here as long as I have friends that still play TF2.
I think having prizes for the top 3 at an stage like is, is already awesome as it is.
Well done to the TF2CSA team. Thanks!
@Poon, ya dude next week CyB could do with some tips ^^, Ill contact you on Steam.
Also there are those 2 pub clans GRIN and PRIME, been around for awhile… Ill see if I can convince them to join and maybe Dronk Gatte? ^^
Thanks guys for the understanding. Check guys is not that late really we can get TF2 to a decent competitive level if just some people don’t get so psycho about loosing and get more serious about building a team that does not disband in a month. And as long as all the TF2 community in SA co-operates the TF2CSA Team is here for real guys we will try to keep everyone having fun.
This is amazing, and hopefully will get people back into the swing of things.
I think the 5 match is a bit overkill, maybe make it 3 matches?
3 is enough to see that they will not just quit, and is still realistically possible.
Im hoping for much fun in the 6v6 ๐
AND the PAS will have to drop 3 players as this is a 6VERSUS6
Well I know the 5 games rule is really overkill considering that some players are doing exams till the 10th of June. Maybe 3 might be good enough what you say X?
Depends Razerfox. We need to discuss it with the existing V1 clans. When a team enters and pulls out during a competition it doesnt just affect them, but the entire competition and really demotivates exisiting clans. Most clans knew that V2 will pop up sooner or later and should have formed and tried. All this most is doing is notifying people that the competition is going to happen. Example, I can assure everyone that I did not tell Operator that there was a V2, but they formed immediately after V1 and have already completed their 5 games that they would need to comply with to enter V2. Shift has been around now for three weeks, but I am not sure if they have played any games besides KOTH, but I think that all teams that play in the KOTH KUP should get automatic entrance to V2.
Regarding prizes, as grimandy said, prizes are a bonus and teams should not just want to enter for them. Teams should want to enter to help TF2 grow and become a better competitive game.
/agree
If your here just for prizes, go back to COD4 or CS:S.
TF2 is about fun and the competitive spirit of a competitive community.
I think the 5 game rule should be applied in different ways to different clans.
If it’s a freshly started clan, with players who are known to clan-hop and start a new clan every 2 weeks (you know who you are), then the 5 game rule is fair.
But for instance (COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL), if half of Nc and half of eNg formed a new clan, those players dont exactly need to prove they are in it for the long run, in which case 2 or 3 games would be enough to know they are here to stay.
We can’t be too strict with the rules when were stretching for 12 teams.
Hopefully the prize incentive will attract people, but not be the lone reason for entering.
On a lighter note, WELL DONE to the site admins and league admins for a very good job, and for keeping this game alive singlehadedly.
We all appreciate it, X and Razerfox
CS:S never offer prizes :'[… Why do you think I moved here?!
Anyone contact any of the operator members for help in regards to 6v6 gameplay.
Aiming at low tier teams especially here, we can:
-Let you listen into our vent
-Show your our strategies
-Give you class basics
-Role discussions
-Tactical introduction on how to deal with things like heavies and Kritskrieg.
-and most importantly, prepare you to be a mid or even high tier team within a week or two.
and I promise not to get angry at anyone.
Shot enemy thanks for the help! I think that would be a good prize for the “Most Improved Team” award, a complete training to take the team to the next level with Operator. What u think?
Maybe we should get some of the higher end clans to help the lower end clans? Say Eq helps CyB, eNG for fury?..etc etc. And see who can do the best at improving said team.
A little competition within a competition no?
Brilliant Idea, and kudos to _enemy and operator for supporting the community.
_enemy has become an asset to satf2 again, and i hope it stays that way.
PENG JUST WANTS THE ENG LOVIN!
Sounds Great Peng. We can discuss it further. Need teams to be friendly with each other a little more. Need all teams to play Both Mixes and Pickups. Pickups and Mixes. Which ever order you want to say it in.
Mickups and Pixes!!!
Yes i agree, if we can get clans like fury, cyb, shift, and di to play pickups the pickup community will grow.
When other game communities wanna see tf2’s community, they check mIrc.
Hopefully with the ingame way of joining pickups, they will get more popular
Pick’n’mixes?
shift all play pickups ๐
I want the loving, especially from you Vomit. We go waaaay back, memories. <3
cant there be a bit more variaty in maps? like playing maps we almost never play in pickups and mixes? i see on communityfortress.com they play * cp_coldfront,cp_gullywash, cp_obscure, cp_mainline, cp_wildmire, ctf_mercy, koth_aurora. evn if its not THOSE maps it could be just like cp_yukon or cp_follower ect…???
You Should see my map list:):) You will be complaining that there is too much variety.
I think its a little to late to introduce any newer maps. I think the latest editions would be cp_obscure_rc3|cp_gullywash|cp_waste|
Those maps all can be found @ ftp://ftp.isgaming.co.za/games/tf2/maps
AHHHH penga-ta! Much old day memories ๐ pfp rofl, my back still hurts.
I agree with shooter, variety in maps keeps people interested.
We need to get a steady map cycle for pickups
eg : cp_badlands, cp_gorge, cp_granary, cp_follower, cp_freight, cp_gravelpit, and many more.
ALSO SOMETHING THAT NEEDS GRAVE ATTENTION
The admins need to start standing up and captaining. Too many pickups are ruined by people that think captaining is just picking a team.
Also the amount of times you wait like 20 minutes just to START picking teams is wayyyyy too much.
Our pickup system need refining before it starts attracting people to it.
Also, picking a balanced team would be nice once in a while? There is no point picking a team to roll over the other. What’s the point of learning then?..
before you get the pickups smoother you might want to get enough ppl to actualy play a pickup. i mean there is like no pickups going on because of the “boicott”…weak
Pickups will Pickup. Need to give it some time.
It’s not a “boicott” it’s a REVOLUTION!
@ peng, it stupid…
What?
“Itโs not a โboicottโ itโs a REVOLUTION!” it suckz
MIXES WILL DESTROY COMPETITIVE TF2.
The only wasy were going to get anywhere is by playing arranged, set games.
Scrims, Clannies and Pickups.
Not to say that we can’t have mixes, i understand some people dont wanna play a pickup or want a little less serious game.
But guys all we need is to get pickups rolling again, as we have enough players now to have 2 pickups going at once again most of the time.
Yebo together is the only way we can move forward. However if mixes can help pub players that think pickups are too tough for them I guess mixes job would be to recruit pubbers and get them into shape for a decent performance in pickups. But having pickups players on a mix without any new guys to help then is just another pickup.
I’m not against mixes as I also play on them now and then but we must cut any situation that can bring any kind of splits or disagreements on the future to build a solid relationship between all the community as at this stage where we are trying to re-build this broken community.
Well Grim mixes can be organized but sometimes we play like 3 maps in a row then other players that would like to play might not like it if they have no chance to join. I know that mixes is mostly about people that get confortable to play with friends but really “IRC pickup” is fair and we should use it as the main way to play pickups and leave mixes to introduce new guys or get a bunch of friends now and then without excluding people.
Mixes are pretty organised. Pickups are more intense. They both useful to the community and both should be played.
I lol’d, you guys want more variety.. I’ve been trying that since I had half-ops in the channel and I doubt any of you knew that period of pickups, except Razerfox and Xt3rminator.
If you look at: http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/demos/ you can notice that badlands/granary are still the most popular downloads. SEEMS ITS NOT JUST #TF2 THAT ENJOYS THOSE MAPS EH?
If you wanna make a difference, you should support the channel and voice your opinions.
[FLAME] ON [/FLAME]
I agree that mixes can be a nice transition between pubs and pickups.
BUT does that not mean that we need to make pickups more “casual pubber” friendly?
I played pubs for a long time, and never had to play mixes to transition to pickups.
The [b]ONLY[/b] reason pickups are “intense” or “non friendly” is because the players make it that way.
The solution to the split in our community isn’t another split.
It’s our communities will to help itself and make the games fun for ALL players.
If we could have a way to organise mixes in irc, and keep the community together and unified, there would be no problem.
The problem comes in where we cant get one pickup going because all the seasoned players are busy in mixes with no new players, and playing map after map.
Remember we tried to get a mixing channel in IRC? And what happened to it?..
true vommit. i mean i am not anti-mix cause i often play them but the only reason i play mixes is because since fury ran of to make mixes there is not enough ppl to fill pickups. so you can !add but you will have to wait at least an hour for it to fill. maybe mixes bring pubbers but i doubt it…i mean i can count on my one hand how many pubbers came to comp. games since i have been playing tf2. myabe im wrong ๐
“because since fury ran of to make mixes there is not enough ppl to fill pickups”
you two faced idiot. you were the one that started mixes with me you doucher. now when shit is hot you blame fury?
well played you dumbshit.
But that doesn’t mean I don’t play pickups, I for one, added to the pickup last night. Get your facts straight before pointing fingers k? Most of fury have to work, they are not youngsters like you or me, shooter. They don’t have time to add, you probably don’t even see them add because your are studying or at school, just get your facts straight.
lol peng. XD i asked you a week back to add and you said fck pickups. ๐ rage much