SpikeElite the money is coming from the founders of this website.

Roobir increasing the gap between top 3 it will really make it more entertained and competitive for the best teams but this first league is a test for us to try an achieve our objectives.

skillbill I really like to hear your opinions because your knowledge about all this kind of competitions is much greater than mine. I know that this league is not perfect and I’ll welcome any criticism as that will help me to improve the next leagues that we have planned.

The reasoning behind the prize reward structure is based on the unbalanced league that we will probably get with 4 top teams, 4 intermediate teams and maybe other 4 smaller clans. I’m just trying to give some chances for all the different skill levels teams to win something. The ideal league probably should be like having groups according to their skill levels. I know that the amounts awarded are not good enough to attract some teams but with this league I just want to create the confidence that something it’s going to happen to bring back a good level of competitiveness in TF2. This community needs to be more active in order to get better rewards and create that motivation for the best teams to put their hard work to win.

About the “Most Improved Team” is to encourage those inexperienced clans to take part on this league and reward the best between them, as most of the time they are afraid to face the better teams so hopefully we can get a few in to compete for something as well. And it won’t be difficult to determine which teams will win this as there just a few that will be tagged from the beginning of the league, we talking about teams like (TD, Titan, Legend and so on) those are they kind of teams that we will consider to take this award. If we really want these new teams to improve on the huge gap on skill levels that exists at the moment they must try and play better teams more often so that they can learn from them so I’m offering a motivation for them to take part on this league.

Trying to offer something for all the teams with different skill levels might be a wrong approach on a competitive level but I think is the best way to invite all the teams to play on this league as I want help the whole community.

This is just a start and at least there is something to win for the effort. I promise you that next leagues will be much better if we can work together and help to grow the competitive community.

I’ll keep listening to the suggestions thanks!

Think about it as a new clan you see the top 4-5 clans and say whats the point they are going to get all the prizes but with the R600 it will get more teams and cement the winning team of that prize into the community.

What team would disband after winning something?

As for a fourth place i beleive their should be a prize look at BOTC four teams in “Finals” say Brazen and Pantheon come back theirs going to be a fight for top 6 places.

You will need another prize to entice the weaker clans of this top six.

Your core reasons to host a competition like this in the first place is to keep old school players interested in staying with TF2 in the first place, whilst at the same time generating a lot of publicity for the competitive TF2 community as a whole.

R900 shared amongst 6 – 8 people equates to little over a R100 per person on that team. Do you really, really believe that the mid skilled (SA standards) are going to stay on in a competition just because of the prospect of earning R100 each?

Get real. I can already list the four clans that will be in that top tier of teams already – presuming that a few players come back and form two or three teams. You are really missing the point of what a competition like this is supposed to achieve.

First of all, websites like DOgaming, MyGaming, mint, pantheon, and maybe one or two more would be interested to cover a prestigious TF2 league with nice prizes on their websites, because they will draw readers to their sites. I have already spoken to a DO gaming journalist who would be interested to cover this event. For those of you who do not know, they are the premier competitive gaming website in this country right now, and with their help you can get TF2 a lot of exposure.

But people aren’t going to take this game or its competitive community seriously when they see the retarded prize structure used for this tournament. Events like these with cash prizes are meant to generate a lot of hype and interest as the competition progresses towards its closing stages, and with a difference of only R500 between 2nd prize and first prize, you wont be motivating teams to really put in a lot of effort with regards to being motivated to practice.

This game is in a dire state right now. There are maybe three or four clans who play semi actively. Modern Warfare 2, Natural Selection 2 and Starcraft 2 are all peaking around the corner and I must say, those games are looking extremely more appealing than what TF2 is looking right now. You can just take a look at COD4 to see how a decent competitive gaming community is structured in SA.

The recent BOTC finals attracted more than 100 people for a shoutcast. Thats 100 people sitting there, listening in to a game that they cant even spectate. Add a HLTV equivalent in there and you are going to get another 50 or so people jumping in there. Thats massive exposure in terms of getting people acquainted with competitive gaming, and this is EXACTLY what TF2 needs right now to survive.

You aren’t going to motivate clans a whole lot with this current prize structure. 3 – 3.5k for first place, 1.5ish k for second, and then the rest for third place would be much more enticing from any competitive TF2 player’s point of view, and you are going to generate a lot more hype and get a lot more publicity through using a serious prize structure, and eventually make it known that this game is ready to draw in sponsors for competitive play.

Or you can continue and use your R80 per player just to keep on playing, and piss off the people who are really interested in staying involved with competitive TF2.

Your move.

There is a prize for the 4th team in order to keep more teams in the competition for its full duration. Say for example you know from your log score (or however the scoring is going to work) that you will not be making the top three teams, you are a lot more likely to pull out and/or disband if you have no chance of wining anything compared to wining a small sum of money for coming 4th overall. With this scenario we have an almost 100% chance of having 5 teams that play for the entire duration of the competition. The amount of money for each category may need to be revised because like you said, the top team does not seem to have a satisfying prize when compared to the prize for the team placing second.

I do not personally think the prize for best improved team is the right way to do it but what it is trying to achieve is another method of keeping all the teams in the competition until it is complete because of the reason mentioned above.

TF2 has always had bad competitions in SA because of teams pulling out and I believe this competition was set up for two reasons; to improve the quality and number of clans in SA, ie helping the dwindling community, and to create a competitive atmosphere where the top teams get prizes allocated according to their skill.

With all this said I am pretty sure that the rules and prizes of this competition are not set in stone and thus can be changed.